QotW #8: how to determine what to whitelist with NoScript?

2011-09-02 by . 2 comments

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Our question of the week this week was asked by Iszi, who wanted to know how exactly we should determine what to trust when employing NoScript. In the question itself Iszi raises some valid points: how does somebody know, other than by trial and error, whether scripts from a given site or third party site are trustworthy? How does a user determine which parts of the javascript are responsible for which bits of functionality? How do we do this without exposing ourselves to the risks of such scripts.

Richard Gadsden suggests one way to approach a solution is for each site to declare what Javascript it directly controls. He notes that such a mechanism could trivially be subverted if the responding page lists any and all javascript as “owned” by the site in question.

Such resource-based mechanisms have been tried and implemented before, albeit for a different problem domain (preventing XSS attacks). Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (W3C, Wikipedia) attempts to do just that by vetting incoming third party requests. However, like HTML-based lists, it does not work well when the trusted end users are “everyone”, i.e. a public web service.

Zuly Gonzalez discusses a potential solution her startup has been working on – running scripts on a disposable vm. Zuly makes some good points – even with a whitelisted domain, you cannot necessarily trust each and every script that is added to the domain; moreover, after you have made your trust decision, a simple whitelist is not enough without re-vetting the script.

Zuly’s company – if you’re interested, check out her answer – runs scripts on a disposable virtual machine rather than on your computer. Disclaimer: we haven’t tested it, but the premise sounds good.

Clearly, however, such a solution is not available to everyone. Karrax suggested that the best option might be to install plugins such as McAfee SiteAdvisor to help inform users as to what domains they should be trusting. He notes that the NoScript team are beginning to integrate such functionality into the user interface of NoScript itself. This is a feature I did not know I had, so I tried it. According to the trial page, at the time of writing the service is experimental, but all of the linked to sites provide a lot of information about the domain name and whether to trust it.

This is an area with no single solution yet, and these various solutions are in continuous development. Let’s see what the future holds.

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  • Matt says:

    I’d be curious what level an in-line IPS definition or URL blocklist provides against such things (maliciousness), in lieu of NoScript. Specifically, why block maliciousness at the browser? Distributed CPU resources?

    • corrector says:

      “why block maliciousness at the browser? “

      Only the browser gets to see the URL for https.

      Seriously, do you want : 1) to be protected only on http sites? or 2) to compromise en end-to-end integrity and relative confidentiality provided by SSL/TLS?

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